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Judge Directs US Attorney To Collect $20K From Orly Taitz After Failure To Pay Fine | TPMMuckraker
News Type: Event — Seeded on Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:50 AM EST
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The Birther Queen refuses to pay.
A federal judge in Georgia has ordered the US Attorney to collect a $20,000 judgment against Orly Taitz after the Birther attorney failed to pay the fine -- which she appealed -- within 30 days.
Here's /www.talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2009/11/order-for-final-judgement.php?page=1>the full order from Judge Clay Land, of the US District Court in the Middle District Of Georgia:
"Orly Taitz has failed to pay the $20,000.00 sanction ordered by the Court on October 13, 2009. Accordingly, the Clerk is ordered to enter final judgment in favor of the United States of America and against Orly Taitz in the principal amount of $20,000.00. The United States Attorney is authorized and directed to collect the judgment as provided by law.
IT IS SO ORDERED, this 13th day of November, 2009. "
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{"commentId":10655873,"authorDomain":"aringland"}
I wonder what her next move will be? Will her loyal Orlybots help her? Will she continue to stand against the tyranny and oppression of the Usurper?
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- 14 votes
#1 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:52 AM EST{"commentId":10656280,"authorDomain":"steve574461"}
Lady Saidy, I'm sure the birthers will see this as more "proof" of the vast conspiracy!
{"commentId":10656280,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"steve574461"}
- 14 votes
{"commentId":10656882,"authorDomain":"webslinger"}
Steve,
I know it's early, but I'm waiting till the 3 remaining Birthers on the Vine flock here to defend her......any minute now........aaaaaaannnnny minute.............
{"commentId":10656882,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"webslinger"}
- 18 votes
{"commentId":10664537,"authorDomain":"GAGUY"}
$20,000.00 is cheap considering all of the grief this "lawyer" has caused the courts...
Can you imagine the amount of mental anguish the poor judges must endure to hear her arguments while maintaining a straight and judicious countenance?...
;-}
{"commentId":10664537,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"GAGUY"}
- 11 votes
{"commentId":10664841,"authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}
why havent anonymous GOP donors paid her fine.. like they did libby and every gopr that gets in trouble.
perhaps the goprs with money know this bull@!$%# actually hurts their party.
{"commentId":10664841,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"JoulesBeef"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":10665437,"authorDomain":"reddirthippy"}
Can you imagine how much tax money this has cost.
I thought conservatives were all for tort reform and against frivolus law suits.
{"commentId":10665437,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"reddirthippy"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":10665705,"authorDomain":"furballs"}
I thought conservatives were all for tort reform
Only on a corporate level.
{"commentId":10665705,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"furballs"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":10666913,"authorDomain":"CBOB"}
I wonder what her next move will be? Will her loyal Orlybots help her? Will she continue to stand against the tyranny and oppression of the Usurper?
LadySaidy She said she was not going to pay the fine so i want to no what can the government do, can they confiscate any money she have in the bank or any proprieties she have.
{"commentId":10666913,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"CBOB"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10667200,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
Let's see. Per the order, interest begins accruing as of today. Sadly, the rate is one any of us would covet wildly for our mortgages.
Presumably, they'll attempt to contact her to set up a payment plan. Should that fail, they'll likely be able to place liens on her tax returns, her properties (she owns the building in which she has her dental/attorney offices, IIRC), and quite likely her husband's income.
{"commentId":10667200,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10667911,"authorDomain":"VerbalBarb"}
Presumably, they'll attempt to contact her to set up a payment plan. Should that fail, they'll likely be able to place liens on her tax returns, her properties (she owns the building in which she has her dental/attorney offices, IIRC), and quite likely her husband's income.
Yes, they'll go after all they can that belongs to her. I don't think they can attach spousal income, can they? (I didn't even know she was married? Geeze, how could anyone live with that nut?).
{"commentId":10667911,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"VerbalBarb"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10667976,"authorDomain":"GAGUY"}
Mail-order Bride?!
{"commentId":10667976,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"GAGUY"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10668138,"authorDomain":"reddirthippy"}
Only on a corporate level.
I'm assuming you mean only when it benefits them? such as limiting their liablility regardless of their behavoir.
{"commentId":10668138,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"reddirthippy"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10669095,"authorDomain":"aringland"}
California is a community property state. If necessary, they can place a lien on any jointly held property.
{"commentId":10669095,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"aringland"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10669255,"authorDomain":"armstrongdebra21"}
If she refuses to pay a duly ordered fine imposed by the court, the next step is contempt of court, which could bring jail time. Or additional fines. Or both. Hopefully, both.
At least she wouldn't have to become a jailhouse lawyer: but given her talent as an attorney, she might want to hire one.
{"commentId":10669255,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"armstrongdebra21"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10669627,"authorDomain":"VerbalBarb"}
California is a community property state. If necessary, they can place a lien on any jointly held property.
I understand that, but I don't know if they can attach the spouse's separate income. But, once it's in a joint checking account, it's fair game.
{"commentId":10669627,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"VerbalBarb"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10669889,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
Mail-order Bride?!
Rumor has it that she married her husband after the second date, so that is a distinct possibility.
Lincoln's affidavit (Linked in post #4) mentions her husband threatening to make her sign over interest in all of their joint property, which would make sense if they're concerned about the sanctions putting liens on everything they own.
{"commentId":10669889,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10672454,"authorDomain":"estela"}
I thought conservatives were all for tort reform and against frivolus law suits.
not to nit pick, but torts are civil actions to recover monetarized damages for violations of protected interests, i.e. injury to your person, property, reputation and the like. Orly is involved --not considering the merits of her allegations-- in a constitutional challenge. Tort reform is inapplicable; but I agree conservative are seeking to limit the types of actions taht can be brought and the amount of damages taht can be recovered through this "tort reform" movement. Further tort reforms are decidedly benefitial to insurance companies that generally pay out the dmages awards and wealthy defendants (corporate or individual) who are more likely to be the subject of a law suit. (The unspoke rule of tort attorneys is find a plaintiff with serious damages and a defendant with deep pockets and you got a good case.)
Secondly, "frivolous law suits", as defined by conservatives, are any claims by an injured party that infringe upon the wealthy--regardless of fault, guilt or liability.
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
{"commentId":10672454,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"estela"}
{"commentId":10674274,"authorDomain":"aringland"}
Something that is just as ironic (sort of) is that "standing" is an issue that has been tightened by Conservative Supreme Courts over the last several decades.
And now some of the more conservative birthers are complaining about the "technicality" of standing.
{"commentId":10674274,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"aringland"}
{"commentId":10676322,"authorDomain":"iceman6"}
I know it's early, but I'm waiting till the 3 remaining Birthers on the Vine flock here to defend her......any minute now........aaaaaaannnnny minute.............
Hmmm, they never showed up. You think they are sleeping it off under some rock, or have they died out??
Wow, that would be a shame, they were REALLY entertaining.
If we find some I think we should place them in protective custody in a zoo somewhere (to preserve the endangered species). They can have a sign that reads "Genuine American Loony"
{"commentId":10676322,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"iceman6"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10657999,"authorDomain":"BlueLeftHand"}
The US attorney will undoubtedly tell the California bar about the unpaid sanction. This may be the way she loses her California bar license.
{"commentId":10657999,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"BlueLeftHand"}
- 11 votes
#2 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:21 AM EST{"commentId":10658389,"authorDomain":"webslinger"}
it would be one of several reasons.....but the most damning of course......poor Orly, I'll send her my two cents - she can add it to her legal defense fund.
{"commentId":10658389,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"webslinger"}
- 5 votes
{"commentId":10658517,"authorDomain":"thelopes"}
This may be the way she loses her California bar license.
Oh, please please please.
{"commentId":10658517,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"thelopes"}
- 9 votes
{"commentId":10659297,"authorDomain":"src97531"}
Maybe she'll go back to full-time dentistry. If she's at bad as that as she is at the law, her patients have my sympathy. $20K is a lot of fillings (or extractions if she doesn't know how to fill).
{"commentId":10659297,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"src97531"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":10659812,"authorDomain":"gabby3239"}
I wish I would lose a dime worrying about someone else birth certificate. It is hard enough keeping up with my own.
{"commentId":10659812,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"gabby3239"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":10660893,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
Maybe she'll go back to full-time dentistry. If she's at bad as that as she is at the law, her patients have my sympathy
Given that her first law cases were defending herself against malpractice suits...
{"commentId":10660893,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
- 7 votes
{"commentId":10661076,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
This may be the way she loses her California bar license.
It is my understanding that California is the only state which would issue her a license, as she received her degree from an unaccredited online university. Of course, she'll likely attempt to keep filing pro se, even without a license.
{"commentId":10661076,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
- 8 votes
{"commentId":10661105,"authorDomain":"src97531"}
Given that her first law cases were defending herself against malpractice suits...
Ohhhh, that's not good. Ever seen the teeth of someone from the USSR? They make the British look good.
{"commentId":10661105,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"src97531"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10661617,"authorDomain":"BlueLeftHand"}
Of course, she'll likely attempt to keep filing pro se, even without a license.
Certain courts have banned people as vexatious litigants - generally people who have filed many nuisance suits in the same court. The filth known as Andy Martin was banned from future pro se filings in Connecticut, after he filed suit after suit with no merit, and after dismissals, made a number of vile comments about the judges being Jewish.
I think O'Rly? has spread herself out among many courts, but if she hits one more than once, she might fae this.
{"commentId":10661617,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"BlueLeftHand"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":10664569,"authorDomain":"beamerab3"}
Given that her first law cases were defending herself against malpractice suits...
<<quizzical look>> Are you joking, or is this true?
If you are joking, my response is "LOL"
If you are not joking, my response is, "Effing unbelievable gall." and then "LOL-ROFL-LMFAO."
{"commentId":10664569,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"beamerab3"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10665776,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
<<quizzical look>> Are you joking, or is this true?
Truth, actually. (Actually, the REASON she became an attorney is speculation, however, she did represent herself and her family members in a number of cases.)
I've seen a list of the cases, just can't recall where, offhand, sorry.
{"commentId":10665776,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10667024,"authorDomain":"CBOB"}
The US attorney will undoubtedly tell the California bar about the unpaid sanction. This may be the way she loses her California bar license.
Kim-298921 That would be a small price for her to pay, and that would not stop her from trying to bring down the government, some one is going to pay the fine for her, and i have been calling for some one to find out where is she getting her money from.
.
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{"commentId":10672549,"authorDomain":"estela"}
...as she received her degree from an unaccredited online university.
actually, every state has a few unaccredited law schools. The caveat is that degrees from unaccredited school permits one to practice only in the state where the degree was bestowed. Unlike an accredited school where a grad can take the bar and practice anywhere in the US, unaccredited degrees are "qualified" or "limited" degrees. Her entire appearence in a federal court in DC is unauthroized.
{"commentId":10672549,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"estela"}
{"commentId":10675078,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
Her entire appearence in a federal court in DC is unauthroized.
Not unauthorized, they gave her permission... which I expect they're regretting.
{"commentId":10675078,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10659869,"authorDomain":"VerbalBarb"}
Perhaps she can have a sale or Orly bobble-head dolls on Ebay to raise some money....
{"commentId":10659869,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"VerbalBarb"}
- 7 votes
#3 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 12:26 PM EST{"commentId":10661293,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
So... What HAS Orly been doing rather than paying her fine?
Filing more papers, of course.
Take a glass of water with you, teh stoopid, it burnz...
{"commentId":10661293,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
- 6 votes
#4 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:06 PM EST{"commentId":10661737,"authorDomain":"hvymtl83"}
I miss the birfers. They were just so easy to tease, torture and piss off. I realize I'm supposed to be kind to the mentally unstable but it was way too much fun. I'm hoping we can do it again in 2012. If the Mayan gods don't destroy us, of course.
{"commentId":10661737,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"hvymtl83"}
- 5 votes
#5 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:18 PM EST{"commentId":10663715,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
For those interested, apparently all is not well in Orlyland. There's an affidavit filed by Charles E Lincoln III in one of his many lawsuits, here:
(For those not up on the soap opera, one of Orly's former witnesses who has accused her of asking him to lie under oath also alleges in an affidavit that he is aware that Orly Taitz and Charles E Lincoln III are (or were) involved in an affair.)
In Lincoln's affidavit, he states that Orly has informed him that she will no longer see, speak with, or work with him.
{"commentId":10663715,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
- 4 votes
#6 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:18 PM EST{"commentId":10664615,"authorDomain":"beamerab3"}
She's being sued by someone named "Lincoln" about the birth certificate of someone who is the product of a union between a caucasian and an African-American?
That's rich. (But not richer than $20,000!)
{"commentId":10664615,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"beamerab3"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10664976,"authorDomain":"aringland"}
Oh, it gets better.
Mr. Lincoln is a thrice-disbarred former attorney that was convicted (or pled guilty, not quite clear) to the FEDERAL felony of...
Falsely representing his Social Security number. Ironic considering the blathering La Orly does about the supposed 39 that Obama has.
This is getting hilarious.
{"commentId":10664976,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"aringland"}
- 6 votes
{"commentId":10665854,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
Nah, he's not suing her... That's his excuse note to a judge. See, he was helping her with the birther cases, in exchange for her representing him (and others) in HIS cases. However, apparently his cases aren't in California, which is the only state where she's actually licensed to appear. (Some judges have allowed her to appear without being licensed by their states, and have regretted it.) She filed to appear for Lincoln, and the judge said no. (The regulations are that if you want to appear in a state not your own, unless the court waives the requirement, you must have an attorney licensed in the state associated with the case, to ensure that SOMEONE on the team knows how the court system in the state works, such as specific filing requirements.)
{"commentId":10665854,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10667301,"authorDomain":"CBOB"}
For those interested, apparently all is not well in Orlyland. There's an affidavit filed by Charles E Lincoln III in one of his many lawsuits, here:
Rainkiss I can't remember who was the one who said she ask him to lie can you give me the name.
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{"commentId":10667592,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
{"commentId":10671209,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
Sorry, wrong one, there were two who came forward saying she asked them to lie. Lucas Smith is the other, and is the one who first made public allegations that Orly and Lincoln were having an affair.
{"commentId":10671209,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10672651,"authorDomain":"estela"}
(The regulations are that if you want to appear in a state not your own, unless the court waives the requirement, you must have an attorney licensed in the state associated with the case, to ensure that SOMEONE on the team knows how the court system in the state works, such as specific filing requirements.)
That is partially correct: one must file an application to the Supreme Ct of the State for what is called "Pro Hoc Vice" and one must associate with a local counsel, licensed to practice within the state. The applying attorney must submit a certificate of good standing from the resident state, and the receiving court can deny the motion for any cause.
{"commentId":10672651,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"estela"}
{"commentId":10663884,"authorDomain":"sgsteitler"}
ICE should look into whether proper channels were followed for her immigration to the US from Moldavia.
{"commentId":10663884,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"sgsteitler"}
- 5 votes
#7 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 2:24 PM EST{"commentId":10667450,"authorDomain":"CBOB"}
ICE should look into whether proper channels were followed for her immigration to the US from Moldavia.
jbird That is what I'm talking about, why have nobody checked into her background and see if she is here legally are is she a plant for some foreign agent.
{"commentId":10667450,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"CBOB"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10664845,"authorDomain":"paradoxlost"}
oh my god i had never heard of this person. Just did my reading up. THIS?! is the juggernaut of the birthers!? LOL!!!! OMG!!!!
{"commentId":10664845,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"paradoxlost"}
- 6 votes
#8 - Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:01 PM EST{"commentId":10665107,"authorDomain":"src97531"}
Just did my reading up.
Oh, then you haven't fully achieved the flavor or Orly. You have to watch at least a few videos of her, so that when you read her statements or filings you can imagine her saying them in her "Moose and squirrel" voice and accent.
{"commentId":10665107,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"src97531"}
- 4 votes
{"commentId":10666432,"authorDomain":"webslinger"}
Dave - do NOT hate on Moose and Squirrel - that's like the 8th Deadly Sin in my book!.....but I can totally see her calling for Boris!
{"commentId":10666432,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"webslinger"}
- 3 votes
{"commentId":10666612,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
Dave - do NOT hate on Moose and Squirrel - that's like the 8th Deadly Sin in my book!.....but I can totally see her calling for Boris!
That's not hating on them. Listen to her accent, you'll understand.
{"commentId":10666612,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10666658,"authorDomain":"src97531"}
It is not possible to listen to her speak without the words "Moose and squirrel" or "Boris, dahling" springing to mind.
{"commentId":10666658,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"src97531"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10666733,"authorDomain":"webslinger"}
Rainkiss, apparently you missed my snark.....and the rest of my comment (I'm with you guys and laughing my ass off at it)....it's ok.
{"commentId":10666733,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"webslinger"}
{"commentId":10666863,"authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
We really need some smileys around here, particularly snark and sarcasm smileys. ;D
{"commentId":10666863,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"rainkiss"}
- 1 vote
{"commentId":10667259,"authorDomain":"webslinger"}
I second that!
{"commentId":10667259,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"webslinger"}
{"commentId":10667614,"authorDomain":"CBOB"}
oh my god i had never heard of this person. Just did my reading up. THIS?! is the juggernaut of the birthers!? LOL!!!! OMG!!!!
paul-662506 Those who think a black man should not be president will overlook her background and where she came from in order to discredit the president, this woman just maybe a plant for a foreign country but all they care about is bringing the country down.
{"commentId":10667614,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"CBOB"}
{"commentId":10667961,"authorDomain":"rlstanford"}
I was told once that a true intellectual is someone who can hear the William Tell Overture without thinking about the Lone Ranger. I'm beginning to see a corollary here - someone who can listen to an Orly Taitz video without thinking "moose and squirrel", or having the Rocky and Bullwinkle theme play in the back of their minds (da da dadumdada dadada-dadumdada). I can tell you - it's not possible for me to do either one.
{"commentId":10667961,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"rlstanford"}
- 2 votes
{"commentId":10672694,"authorDomain":"estela"}
There is a picture of Orly in the dictionary next to the phrase "lunatic fringe"
{"commentId":10672694,"threadId":"723495","contentId":"3497758","authorDomain":"estela"}
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